blackouT Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 (edited) Hi guys, i'll list some ideas and feedbacks to try improve the server for everyone. Please, put +1 or -1 in each point and a justification, thank u (i dont go to the translator, so if u dont understand anything, tell me please, rofl)1º Improve the PvP - WoE activies for XIV Points Today, XIVRO is PvE based, right? And this i think isn't a good idea for everyone. BR players for example is insane for PvP - WoE (how u knows). So, my first point in this topic is:1.1 - PvP area (guild_vs2 for example) with XIV Points per kill. If anyone try make a another char to get free points, we can make a system to penality, like a "after 10 deaths this guy give 0 points to the killer". Dinamic: 1 Kill = 2 XIV points 5 Kill (Killing Spree) = 4 XIV points 10 Kill (Legendary) = 6 XIV points if anyone stop a killing spree = 4 XIV points if anyone stop a Legendary = 6 XIV points1.2 - We can insert this dinamic on WoE. All guilds will decide to make GvG to get XIV Points and we'll stop the "pre-cast WoE" for 50 minutes. Additional: Please, put WoE 2.0 on saturdays. 1.3 - Another suggetions (secundary) is make a XIV WAR Points to get War Pieces and Remnant of War, but, i think this is more hard to develop. However...its a very good choice to get more players (AND MORE GUILDS) on WoE. 2º PvP - Woe Rank I miss this on XIVRO. A PvP Rank (KDA) and WoE Rank (Kill and Emp Breaker), its possible to develop? Is 1 motivation more to go to WoE and PvP;Additional: Insert a broadcast with Castle name, Emp breaker and Guild. 3º Vote Point and Activity Point system with Costume Ticket / XIV Box rewards We need to move the market, vote point and activity point will help the server to get more players too. Need a exclusive rewards for this also, i can suggest equipaments for this after. 4º Clan Hunt Missions improvement My suggestion here is reduce the delay to half. I believe this is fair to balance dual party and solo players. Novice Clan Hunt Cooldown: reduce to 15 minutes Intermediate Clan Hunt Cooldown: reduce to 30 minutes Expert Clan Hunt Cooldown: 24 hours (this is indifferent to solo player) 5º Reward Box Make a reward box to Bug reporters, Streamers and Instagramers to divulge the server. IT'S MUCH IMPORTANT TO INCREASE ATT ON EVERY GAME. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I need back to work now, i'll try make anothers suggestions another day. Please, vote with +1 and -1 in ea topic with justification. Edited May 13, 2020 by blackouT 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chady Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Bruh I am happy that someone has actually spent time to say something that somehow makes sense so thank you for this! PvP and WoE is indeed in need of improvements but we have to deal with the bigger problem, more players. So may I add this; Since our FB Page is up, we can do Like and Share event too and this has been really effective in other servers. So I guess this first before the actual Reward Box thing. FB is a start, let us maximize that platform. Sorry if I didnt +1 -1 every topic with justification, because I have already gave my feedback to someone. 2 Quote [ Kafra Corporation ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackouT Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Chady said: Bruh I am happy that someone has actually spent time to say something that somehow makes sense so thank you for this! PvP and WoE is indeed in need of improvements but we have to deal with the bigger problem, more players. So may I add this; Since our FB Page is up, we can do Like and Share event too and this has been really effective in other servers. So I guess this first before the actual Reward Box thing. FB is a start, let us maximize that platform. Sorry if I didnt +1 -1 every topic with justification, because I have already gave my feedback to someone. Thanks. Sure, FB is a start but isn't a exclusive platform to start. I didn't say nothing about FB because we started there, so i just suggest more platform to go. Like and share events on facebook can happen in parallel with streamers and instagramers for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxlbf Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Thanks for worrying about the server and taking your time to create this topic. I agree with the PvP point dynamics and making rankings to motivate players to reach the top. In fact I think that everything you listed in this topic is valid and suitable for analysis by the staff. Some players told me they are tired of boss hunting and asking for more points dymanics. But as Chady said, I think the main point now is get more players. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chady Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Once new players are in Im sure they'll be hyped when they know almost everything is obtainable and craft-able. Yet once that hype goes off how can we retain them? Your ideas come here, the action, the PvP and everything else so those are really nice to give time to think about for the dev and staff team. We will hear more from them soon as Max also said the ideas are suitable for analysis. Sometimes we really need to stop and step back a little to see more what lies ahead. 1 Quote [ Kafra Corporation ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prank Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Yo what's up I'll try to answer some things here or +1 your feedback. PVP Stuff 1.1. We try not to add XIV Point rewards in PVP arenas or areas in general because it's easily going to be abuse the system to get points. But we are going to add battlegrounds next big patch which will give you points and other rewards! There's going to be many game modes in battlegrounds and there will be a queue system so players can join it from anywhere with @joinbg. There's going to be a happy hour where you will be able to obtain points and rewards on it which will give incentive for people to keep queuing up for it. In terms of of PVP stuff we're going to have mainly for the server is.. WoE v1 WoE v2 Super Novice WoE (We will add the enhanced version which is Super Novice with 2nd job skills). Battlegrounds (Many game modes). 1.2. We were going to probably increase the rewards and bump guild-less players out of the castle. Probably what we gonna do is add reward points to everyone who participated in it and some extra conqueror boxes. Not sure yet. 1.3. We're going to be strictly giving out Remnant of War and the other items to create the custom sets through instances. We're going to be adding more instances from Pre-Renewal and Renewal so watch out for that! We might make custom WoE set though that you can earn via WoE points like you mentioned but still need to think on the process. 2. WoE/PVP rank we will be adding we're also going to add it to our website alongside MVP rank if it's possible not too sure if it is yet. The suggestion with showing the breaker, castle and guild is good too. +1 3. This is also a good idea we were thinking about but we're trying to find a way to make not abuse-able but we'll keep thinking about the process and let you guys know to give feedback about it. Maybe we will find ways to get points to use on costume box or a separate reward. +1 4. I will bring this up to Dazzu I would like more opinions on it though if people think the same way since we just released it. 5. Rewarding bug catchers is a good incentive as well. We will think of a reward for that +1. As for social media and advertisement we're starting to that now. At least on the Facebook end I've been doing a lot of re-posting on advertisement pages and talking to players one-on-one. For instagram we'll still need to make that i'm not sure if there's a following on there I think it's mostly facebook. For streaming I don't know we'll see probably better to think of a program for that once we get more players. On that note, in the future we will be making a topic post regarding bug fixes and adding content. It's a lot of stuff but hopefully it will keep everyone more informed on our future and what we're going to do. This way as well you guys can keep giving us feedback and you could even dispute if you think a change is too much or wrong. Some people think we are thinking biased but that's not true we always go for common ground because it's better if many people have an opinion to create a great idea! So don't be shy and thanks @blackouT for this topic it helped me think about some things and ideas. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuki Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 tl;dr I got triggered by the +1 -1 system you wanted to use here. I will also skip some of your ideas. 1. PvP that rewards XIV pts are easily abusable due to dual logging and/or having multiple computers. 1.1 Kill streaks? Really? -1,000,000 2. PvP rankings, okay that might actually good for some people's ego. 3. Voting sites area easily fooled too. I've once voted for about 10 accounts just by using VPN. Activity point, on the other hand, might be a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackouT Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tsuki said: tl;dr I got triggered by the +1 -1 system you wanted to use here. I will also skip some of your ideas. 1. PvP that rewards XIV pts are easily abusable due to dual logging and/or having multiple computers. 1.1 Kill streaks? Really? -1,000,000 2. PvP rankings, okay that might actually good for some people's ego. 3. Voting sites area easily fooled too. I've once voted for about 10 accounts just by using VPN. Activity point, on the other hand, might be a good idea. Ok, thanks for u feedback. About PvP points (we can develop another type for points after, XIV point is a example), it is only for a specific arena with penality if player died 10x. 27 minutes ago, Prank said: Yo what's up I'll try to answer some things here or +1 your feedback. PVP Stuff 1.1. We try not to add XIV Point rewards in PVP arenas or areas in general because it's easily going to be abuse the system to get points. But we are going to add battlegrounds next big patch which will give you points and other rewards! There's going to be many game modes in battlegrounds and there will be a queue system so players can join it from anywhere with @joinbg. There's going to be a happy hour where you will be able to obtain points and rewards on it which will give incentive for people to keep queuing up for it. In terms of of PVP stuff we're going to have mainly for the server is.. WoE v1 WoE v2 Super Novice WoE (We will add the enhanced version which is Super Novice with 2nd job skills). Battlegrounds (Many game modes). 1.2. We were going to probably increase the rewards and bump guild-less players out of the castle. Probably what we gonna do is add reward points to everyone who participated in it and some extra conqueror boxes. Not sure yet. 1.3. We're going to be strictly giving out Remnant of War and the other items to create the custom sets through instances. We're going to be adding more instances from Pre-Renewal and Renewal so watch out for that! We might make custom WoE set though that you can earn via WoE points like you mentioned but still need to think on the process. 2. WoE/PVP rank we will be adding we're also going to add it to our website alongside MVP rank if it's possible not too sure if it is yet. The suggestion with showing the breaker, castle and guild is good too. +1 3. This is also a good idea we were thinking about but we're trying to find a way to make not abuse-able but we'll keep thinking about the process and let you guys know to give feedback about it. Maybe we will find ways to get points to use on costume box or a separate reward. +1 4. I will bring this up to Dazzu I would like more opinions on it though if people think the same way since we just released it. 5. Rewarding bug catchers is a good incentive as well. We will think of a reward for that +1. As for social media and advertisement we're starting to that now. At least on the Facebook end I've been doing a lot of re-posting on advertisement pages and talking to players one-on-one. For instagram we'll still need to make that i'm not sure if there's a following on there I think it's mostly facebook. For streaming I don't know we'll see probably better to think of a program for that once we get more players. On that note, in the future we will be making a topic post regarding bug fixes and adding content. It's a lot of stuff but hopefully it will keep everyone more informed on our future and what we're going to do. This way as well you guys can keep giving us feedback and you could even dispute if you think a change is too much or wrong. Some people think we are thinking biased but that's not true we always go for common ground because it's better if many people have an opinion to create a great idea! So don't be shy and thanks @blackouT for this topic it helped me think about some things and ideas. Thanks for feedback Prank and youre welcome. I hope the XIVRO grow more and more with feedbacks and ideas from players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsuki Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Just now, blackouT said: Ok, thanks for u feedback. About PvP points (we can develop another type for points after, XIV point is a example), it is only for a specific arena with penality if player died 10x. I think instead of adding points on a specific PvP map or during WoE. We're better off just having it in BG as Prank proposed. Since it isn't abusable as some of the BG game modes are more on you die, you lose, or you respawn but the points you get will be determined by whether your team wins or loses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geenyx#6571 Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 @Tsuki on point to this regarding on your type of reward tho as it will really be abused by just doing multi logins and spam toons just to gain points. As for ppl will really tend to find ways on obtaining valuables the easier way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chady Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Sooner or later the dev team will be letting everybody know what they're working on for us. And by then we can discuss or even dispute some and hopefully there will be more participation as it will make us not make blindlessly wait for whats coming. BG and Super Novice WoE is something I really look forward too including the new instances. I wish to see more feedbacks like the ones we had today and not just +1s Quote [ Kafra Corporation ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackouT Posted May 14, 2020 Author Share Posted May 14, 2020 7 hours ago, Chady said: Sooner or later the dev team will be letting everybody know what they're working on for us. And by then we can discuss or even dispute some and hopefully there will be more participation as it will make us not make blindlessly wait for whats coming. BG and Super Novice WoE is something I really look forward too including the new instances. I wish to see more feedbacks like the ones we had today and not just +1s +1 = I agree. Only this. Isn't a democracy or something like that. Don't worry bro, i don't understand this worrysome about +1 or -1 o.O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chady Posted May 14, 2020 Share Posted May 14, 2020 Im only meme-ing the +1s I know what it means its just really obnoxious at some point. Quote [ Kafra Corporation ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theta Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) 1 - Improve the PvP - WoE activies for XIV Points There's shitload of ways to get XIV points now, and they're EASY. What's hard to get are Remnants but for me it's fine for the population right now. I don't wanna see an influx of remnant sets at this time. 2 - PvP - Woe Rank Sure leaderboards? Not my thing though. Also it'd be nice to have an emp test in @go train3 - Vote Point and Activity Point system with Costume Ticket / XIV Box rewards Already said above, easily abused. Just change your ip and viola free points.4 - Clan Hunt Missions Improvement Eh they're fine already if you do the math: Lets say you can finish each/all quests for 30mins (w/wo breaks) Novice Hunt - 24 x 20 = 480 XIV Points Intermediate - 12 x 50 = 600 XIV Points Expert - 1 x 100 = 100 XIV Points Total - 1280 XIV Points PER DAY5 - Reward BoxYou get the sense of pride and accomplishment Edited May 15, 2020 by Theta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chady Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Theta said: What's hard to get are Remnants but for me it's fine for the population right now. I don't wanna see an influx of remnant sets at this time. Really Pussy? REALLY!? Okay you see me in game now, k? Edited May 15, 2020 by Chady 1 Quote [ Kafra Corporation ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theta Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 50 minutes ago, Chady said: Really ____? REALLY!? Okay you see me in game now, k? Thy shall not speak thy name. Hahaha sorry not sorry. I'm in game rn waddup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chady Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 What name? I didnt put any name 1 Quote [ Kafra Corporation ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanx Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 On 5/13/2020 at 1:19 PM, blackouT said: 1º Improve the PvP - WoE activies for XIV Points Today, XIVRO is PvE based, right? And this i think isn't a good idea for everyone. BR players for example is insane for PvP - WoE (how u knows). So, my first point in this topic is:1.1 - PvP area (guild_vs2 for example) with XIV Points per kill. If anyone try make a another char to get free points, we can make a system to penality, like a "after 10 deaths this guy give 0 points to the killer". I would like really PvP to have that incentive of "XIV POINTS" it would be great for those who like PVP +1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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